2025 Trends in Design and Style

Casey: 00:00:32

Hi, I'm Casey.

Rainey: 00:00:33

And I'm Rainey. Welcome to the Reframing Design podcast. If you're a new designer, a seasoned designer, a homeowner or home enthusiast, you are in the right place.

Casey: 00:00:44

We are going to talk about all things design. Our stories, our opinions, our experiences, and we're probably going to chase a few rabbits down a few rabbit holes.

But one thing we can guarantee, we will not talk about politics.

Rainey: 00:01:00

Okay, we're cracking up because one of the things that we have to do before we start our podcast is we have to clap so that all the microphones and cameras are synced. And so.

Casey: 00:01:12

And know when we're not just blabbering.

Rainey: 00:01:14

Right.

Casey: 00:01:15

Because that's typically what we're doing.

Rainey: 00:01:16

That's what we're doing. But so when we were practicing with the team and everything, I thought we had to clap before every time we started something new.

And so I spent half the day clapping. And nobody told us, I think, because.

Casey: 00:01:31

It made you so happy. It made me so happy to take your happy.

Rainey: 00:01:35

So right before we. We start filming, we. We clap. And then it cracks us both up. But anyway, hopefully after our fifth or sixth. Hello.

Casey: 00:01:44

Beautiful. Great shoes today. Goodness. Oh, my gosh. Wait, are we still both wearing the same brand?

Rainey: 00:01:50

I think we are.

Casey: 00:01:51

Yeah.

Rainey: 00:01:51

Shout out to Sam Edelman.

Casey: 00:01:54

Oh, my gosh. Always a fun shoe.

Rainey: 00:01:55

Always.

Casey: 00:01:56

And comfortable. And comfortable. We didn't get people. I know. We need to talk to them. Interior design, but fashion as well.

Rainey: 00:02:02

Okay, so what is a win you've got today, lady?

Casey: 00:02:05

Oh, my gosh. That we are all gonna be together with my whole family tomorrow for like, a week. Yes. A whole week. Mom, dad, stepmom, all the moms, all the family.

Brother, his kids, my kids. It's awesome. And then we see Matt's family.

Rainey: 00:02:27

Yeah.

Casey: 00:02:27

That's our win.

Rainey: 00:02:28

That is so exciting. That's a huge win.

Casey: 00:02:29

It's a big one.

Rainey: 00:02:30

So my win for today, and this actually really happened. And when it happened, I just giggled to myself. But anybody, man, woman, child that wears makeup will appreciate this.

So I went to put on my lip liner, because that's always a good idea. And I thought that there wasn't enough left for me to do it. I was gonna have to sharpen it, which is like this whole thing.

And I didn't wanna have to look for the sharpener. I didn't wanna take the minute to do it, and so I just went for it.

And I actually had enough to put on my lip liner without using a sharpener this morning. And here was Me, it was like Napoleon Dynamite. I was like, yes. And that's how I started my day.

Casey: 00:03:11

If we could just make those the wins. Why are we getting so sad about other stuff? Because that is.

Rainey: 00:03:16

It's huge.

Casey: 00:03:16

There's a hundred of them that happen to us a day. Right. But those are the luxuries.

Rainey: 00:03:20

It did make me giggle. And I was like, I cannot wait till Casey.

Casey: 00:03:23

Oh, my God. I love that. I love that. I love that you wear lip liner. I probably need to bring that into my life. Cause I'm addicted to lipstick, so.

Rainey: 00:03:30

Well, my whole thing is, you know, with the wrinkles and stuff, you start to get the lipstick bleeding into the lines. Which I'm gonna celebrate someday when I'm no longer a professional. But for today, we need to keep it inside the lines.

Casey: 00:03:43

We need to keep the shit inside the lines. I wonder if that's why. So I use either Maybelline or. I think it's a L'Oreal. It's $12, and it stays on for 24 hours.

Because I think lipstick is the most important thing on your face. And I. But I eat through everything or drink through it or whatever, and I forget to reapply.

Rainey: 00:04:03

Here's what I'm telling.

Casey: 00:04:04

Can't bleed anywhere. It's like, all.

Rainey: 00:04:06

And it's right there. It stays right there.

Casey: 00:04:08

Stay.

Rainey: 00:04:08

That's amazing. You're going to have to share that with.

Casey: 00:04:10

Yeah.

Rainey: 00:04:10

Which sort of brings us to what we're going to talk about. So maybe it's Maybelline. Maybe it's. I don't know.

Casey: 00:04:17

Isn't that the song?

Rainey: 00:04:18

Maybe it's Maybelline. I think that's it. That's really. It's really great branding and marketing. That's what I'm telling you.

No, but we have been talking sort of behind the scenes about what's next. What are we seeing? And we thought, oh, we should share this with people.

Casey: 00:04:32

So I'm so excited. Yeah. Because right now we're filming before, but.

Rainey: 00:04:36

It'S the new year.

Casey: 00:04:37

The new year.

Rainey: 00:04:38

Yeah.

Casey: 00:04:38

How's that going?

Rainey: 00:04:39

Yeah.

Casey: 00:04:40

Yeah, let's. Yeah. Okay. So trends. Let's dive in. What are you seeing? What is your.

Rainey: 00:04:45

So one of the first things that I thought about was Metallics.

You know, Metallics have always been something that we've dealt with because we have finishes on different things, like plumbing fixtures, light fixtures. But I feel like metallics are having. Are becoming like, the main focus and not the background singer right now. Shoes are metallic.

Fabrics have a lot of metallics. Wallpapers. I Just specified an epic wallpaper from. I think it was Brewster and had a gorgeous metallics in it. Coppers and silvers and golds and so.

But not in a way that's kind of like Vegas gaudy.

Casey: 00:05:23

Right, right.

Rainey: 00:05:24

Sophisticated. Are you seeing that at all?

Casey: 00:05:27

That elevated type? Yes. And people are weaving it in rugs.

I was just at a friend's at a house, a friend of in Nashville, Richard, he let us see his beautiful home he designed there. And they had metals woven into the silk rugs, which was like.

Rainey: 00:05:47

So here's my thing. Like, who sat around one day and goes, I know we're gonna weave a metal into this rug and that's actually gonna work.

Casey: 00:05:57

And that's gonna work and people are gonna spend the money on it because it is so fantastic. I have no idea. It's almost like artichokes. Who decided that was a good idea to eat? But like, who just. Who thinks metal in the soft thing and it.

Rainey: 00:06:08

And it works. Yeah, those are the people. Those are. Yeah. Really are great minds.

Casey: 00:06:12

But like you said you had some great shoes on the other day and it had that beautiful metal, like. Yeah, yeah, that. The metallic. It's fantastic. Yeah, I love that.

Rainey: 00:06:20

Okay, so what's something else that you're seeing?

Casey: 00:06:23

I feel like leather is really hitting it hard right now in a lot of different ways, which is funny because.

Rainey: 00:06:30

Interesting.

Casey: 00:06:31

You might have had. You might have a client who has an interesting room, but when you brought it up, and this was months ago, but it really is happening, right.

Like it's in lighting and it's not always necessarily 100% leather. So. No. You know, to anybody who.

Rainey: 00:06:45

Let's not get technical.

Casey: 00:06:46

Let's not get technical. But it's on lighting, it's on hardware, it's on faucets, it's everywhere now. And it's making me so happy because it's.

It's like such a tactile thing and in such a cool way.

Rainey: 00:07:00

It is.

Casey: 00:07:00

And so. Yeah.

Rainey: 00:07:01

And I think you almost have to embrace that. Right. Because it is going to get oil on it or something in some of those applications and then you just have to own the lived in. Right.

Casey: 00:07:09

That patina just kind of rusts.

Rainey: 00:07:11

And if you can't, if you're like OCD and that is not for you, just don't do it.

Casey: 00:07:15

Right.

Rainey: 00:07:15

Just put it on things you're not going to touch, like lighting.

Casey: 00:07:18

You're not going to touch your lighting, hopefully. I mean, hanging from chandeliers possibly, but.

Rainey: 00:07:23

You might be hanging from chandeliers.

Casey: 00:07:25

Make sure that leather's tight. But aren't you doing a room?

Rainey: 00:07:29

So I do. I have a client right now. And they did the roll out the plan moment. And I saw was this one room was titled Leather Room.

And nobody prepared me for this. And so I'm trying to decide. I mean, I just got a little warm, you know, I'm sure my face was showing like this covered up shock moment.

And finally I got the guts. And I was like, so I see that this is marked leather room. And they started just dying laughing.

And they were like, oh, I bet that really had you thinking some things. But what they tool leather, like, that's their hobby. And so we're in the middle of designing that project. It's in the middle of the build.

And in that space, we're gonna have this awesome table that they can actually tool on and does won't get damaged. And then we're gonna have racks and racks and racks in the room where hides will be hanging. And so think about the smell.

Not just the look, but the smell and all of those things and the mood that will be in that space.

Casey: 00:08:37

Oh, God, I cannot wait for you to photograph and share that one. You almost need that one to be like a scratch and sniff. Cause that's like a moment, like you walk in, you're gonna have that like scratch and sniff.

Rainey: 00:08:47

I love it.

Casey: 00:08:47

It's that feeling of whatever that is for somebody.

Rainey: 00:08:50

Right.

Casey: 00:08:51

Like when we walk on job sites and there's that wood that cut.

Rainey: 00:08:53

Oh, I love that. You can just smell that right this minute. Right? Let's just take a second. Yeah.

Casey: 00:08:57

That site visit when it's that all the framing going in. Okay. I love it.

Rainey: 00:09:02

And so we're actually trying to finish that house for the home tour end of March. But all the fingers and all the toes have to be crossed for that to work. But we'll see if that works out.

So another thing that I've been seeing is pattern. Flowers are like making a splash. Not background little things like pillows, but like the whole sofa.

And these are flowers, floral patterns that I would think would go like in an English garden type vibe. And they're in every design style and in crazy unique ways. Have you noticed that?

Casey: 00:09:39

I've noticed it like crazy. And it's gone from fabric. Right. You kind of saw those dresses and people doing that for a while. It's everywhere. I feel like I'm seeing.

And it's not old lady. Sorry to the old ladies. Because we. I am the old ladies.

Rainey: 00:09:55

We are the old ladies.

Casey: 00:09:58

But it's fresh. It feels fun and playful, but it's soft and kind of got layers. Because it's never just the wallpaper. Like, there's a lot of spaces. You just.

You have wallpaper and then whatever. But I feel like whoever's using that then has everything layered and layered on top of it. And. Yeah. So florals are.

Rainey: 00:10:16

And maybe even that same print repeated somewhere else in the space, which gets me super excited.

Casey: 00:10:22

I think people do that.

Rainey: 00:10:23

That went away for a long time, but now we're sort of seeing peekaboos. So, for example, if you use that in drapes, we're sort of seeing those patterns, maybe peekaboo in a pillow or on Nautuman, which is so.

Casey: 00:10:36

I love the peekaboo.

Rainey: 00:10:37

Me too.

Casey: 00:10:37

Because it makes you have to really look at the picture or the experience because you're like, wait, am I seeing that right? And the only little detail might be a trim or something like that. Anyways, it's so I always think that.

Rainey: 00:10:48

That'S what great design makes you do. It makes you think. And so we talk about that when we're designing spaces. Is that won't make you think. That's basic. That's pedestrian.

Let's not do that. And then you put something else on the design board, or you pull another material, and you're like, oh, that's the one that makes me think.

Casey: 00:11:08

Doesn't it make you happy when your client gets the same reaction as you did? And when you pulled it for them, it's everything. It's that, holy cow, like, we did that. We got them. It's a great freaking feel.

Rainey: 00:11:21

Have you ever had something that you pulled and you're like, this is so amazing, and your client didn't get it at first. And you. You know, you have that sinking feeling because you know what it means for the entirety of the project?

And have you had to talk clients into something?

Casey: 00:11:36

Yes. And I've been. I will not.

It's not a bribe, but I will just come out and say, I promise, trust this, and if you don't like it, I will pay to have it changed.

Rainey: 00:11:46

So I've done that before on things as big as wallpapering an entire dining room. I'm like, I will pay to change it. And you're thinking, oh, God, oh, God, oh, God, oh, God, oh, God. And usually I would say nine times.

Maybe 99 times out of 100, whatever that thing is, the client is like, I am so glad that you had me do that, because it's my favorite.

Casey: 00:12:07

Yes, it's the best compliment ever. That that's. And that ultimately becomes the people's favorite room, I feel like. Cause it's so outside of their comfort zone.

So that's where they get that nervousness.

Rainey: 00:12:19

But we make sure it's still in their lane.

Casey: 00:12:21

Or it's in their lane, right? Yeah, it's in there. It's a vignette. It's a moment, but it's not their whole. Like, you wouldn't put it everywhere, but it's a moment.

And those are so special. I agree with you so kind of on that. And I am curious what your thoughts are, but what else.

I'm seeing a lot of happening is these generational pieces. Like, these antiques are making their way back again. Thank goodness they didn't leave forever.

But that, to me, is what's helping my brain, because we just actually had a dinner party for Matt's company, and we had it at the house. And, oh, gosh, that was a crazy, crazy thing. But I got to use all of my grandma's china and her silverware.

And so we had 20 people sitting there, and I had to use two sets because didn't have enough for matching. But it just was like, who ate here on these plates?

The conversations that have been ensuing since the 40s, that these were bought when they got married, all of those things. And I feel like. And my mom and I talk about this all the time. Furniture, it holds things. Maya Angelou said it on Oprah once. But, like, it holds.

Like, your words are, like, sunk in to the fabric of your home. And so what gets set in your spaces is so important, right? And the words that we use.

And so you think of the things you're using and the experiences it has experienced. I don't know. So generational patients are knocking my socks up, socks off right now.

Rainey: 00:13:54

I love that. It also, I think, is super special when we can go into people's existing homes and point out things that they're like, I'm going to give that away.

I'm going to get rid of that. It's time to sell this. And we see it with fresh eyes, and we're like, oh, it's been used in your family as a dresser for 100 years.

But I think we should use it as the entryway piece. Right? And so we reimagine how some of those pieces are used.

And I think when then the clients move into their new home, there's things that feel like home. And everything's not brand new, shiny, straight off of the, you know, showroom. Floor from the manufacturer.

And I think it just makes it more special and meaningful.

Casey: 00:14:42

It's more meaningful.

And I think they get touched by the fact that you recognize that piece because they think that they need to get rid of it because they're moving into this beautiful new space and it's like, no, we can make room absolutely for this. We're doing one right now.

And they've got a piece, a buffet and it's beautiful and it's been their family for a long time and it needs a little bit of extra love. But a built in nook built around it rather than just putting in a built in buffet and blah, blah, calling it good.

Rainey: 00:15:08

It's like, no, let's make it super perfect.

Casey: 00:15:10

Let's make that purposeful.

Rainey: 00:15:11

And I know on your Instagram you recently posted, you did a post about a bar that you got heavy on this shinoiserie vibe.

Casey: 00:15:21

Oh man, it is from your grandmother.

Rainey: 00:15:23

Amazing.

Casey: 00:15:24

It was amazing. And my grandparents traveled to Hong Kong extensively in the 80s and stuff, which is really cool.

And they got it on one of their trips and it just has sat in their living room. And so I, every, you know, holiday we were, they were serving out of it and so we use it that way ourselves. And it just makes me so happy.

Rainey: 00:15:42

I love that.

Casey: 00:15:43

So let's use our pieces. And I think that's what is happening too is it's great for the environment. It is good for the environment.

But bring out, use your china, use your crystal, use those things.

Because I go, I hit up especially here in Houston we have some great shops like the Guild shop is one that I, you know, 19th Street Antiques is another. But everything in there is almost brand new, but it's 50 years old because the people had it.

And it's just so precious and just nothing's that precious. The people are precious, but. But the stuff isn't. So like share it.

Rainey: 00:16:14

I love that.

Another thing that I think I'm seeing and presented actually to our clients yesterday in their primary bedroom is we are seeing ceilings as a fifth wall now. We don't have four walls and a ceiling. We have five walls. And we're treating it like that.

And I think you said you recently heard that from someone in the industry.

Casey: 00:16:38

Yeah, Lisa Mendy, she talked about it that way and I loved it because I've never, we, you know, everybody just says throw ceiling. Oh yeah, ceiling white. I mean there's a paint color, Sherwin Williams ceiling white.

Rainey: 00:16:49

I think every paint vendor has ceiling white. Right.

Casey: 00:16:52

It's a flat. Yeah. I'll just throw that up. And that's. But it's a forgotten space. And so when she said, it's the fifth wall, I was like, it's brilliant, because.

Yeah, so what. So what kind of stuff are you?

Rainey: 00:17:02

Well, in this house in Colorado, it has very, very high ceiling.

It's actually sloped pitch because of the roof line and what you have to do with massive amounts of snow and weight, which has been a whole new challenge.

Casey: 00:17:18

It's so interesting.

Rainey: 00:17:19

So in the primary bedroom, we're doing an epic wallpaper.

And when we originally started talking through this project with the client, it was gonna be on the wall behind the bed, which we don't really do individual accent walls a lot right now. So when we were designing, we played with wallpapering the entire room, but the focus is outside the windows. Right.

Are these gorgeous mountains and the Rio Grande river babbling right there? So we felt like if we put it on the wall.

Casey: 00:17:49

Walls.

Rainey: 00:17:49

The surrounding walls, that it would be a distraction. So then we were like, but what if we put it on the ceiling?

And so it was one of those moments when we presented it to her and her husband, it was like, whoa.

But the more we went through the design vibe and showed her the design boards and those sort of things, she got to where she was like, I think I'm gonna love this. Oh, God, that's so good. But it was really treating it like another wall.

Casey: 00:18:16

Yeah. And so will you just pull a color out of that and kind of go for it on all the walls and make all the other.

The regular four walls just kind of a something or what are you gonna do?

Rainey: 00:18:25

No, it's gonna be a whisper. It's gonna be a whisper again because we have to take into consideration what we're seeing outside these doors and windows.

Casey: 00:18:31

We want that to be the truth.

Rainey: 00:18:32

I cannot compete with a Rio Grande river.

Casey: 00:18:35

I don't care how fabulous my wallpaper.

Rainey: 00:18:37

Is in the mountains, I cannot compete.

Casey: 00:18:40

Mother Nature wins every time.

Rainey: 00:18:43

As she should. Right?

Casey: 00:18:44

She really should. She's been around the longest.

Rainey: 00:18:46

And then that brings me to other walls, like, cladding. Huge. I mean, the number. I mean, what are all the things that we're seeing that people are smacking up on walls? And it's amazing.

Casey: 00:18:56

And it's amazing. And it just keeps coming. Right? So I've just got something.

I love that our vendors just send us these fun little care packages that have all their new things in it. But it's out of either the facade, like we were talking about before Cosentino, who We love.

But they've got their wall cladding for exterior as well as interior. And they've got the, you know, the texture, they've got the slatted, they've got the reeded, there's almost everything. And then of course, wood.

And we're doing a ton of wood and metal again.

Rainey: 00:19:23

Metal, metal showing up on wall cladding. So it's, I think for me, the different, the different textures add such a richness and such a mood to spaces without it just being a paint color.

Casey: 00:19:38

It's so interesting that we are really even, I mean, right here in your office. Just even the moldings here, just that like library molding or whatever we're doing. Because if this was a wall and you had to. I love art and we both.

Oh, my God, art is making a huge, huge. But this does it in and of itself. Makes it beautiful and special without having to go to that degree.

Rainey: 00:20:01

Exactly.

Casey: 00:20:02

So, yeah, it's been super fun. People are getting outside of their comfort zones in really cool ways. And I think people in our industry are really creating cool shit right now.

Rainey: 00:20:11

Oh, 100%. I'm just seeing really new products, textiles on the walls.

Casey: 00:20:15

Right. Even that. Just like fabric. Everything is just like yummy, which is.

Rainey: 00:20:18

Impactful if you know that you're going to be in a space that's going to have a lot of hard surfaces. And so that really helps with sound. The rug and fabric on the wall, it's going to help with sound absorption.

Casey: 00:20:28

So true. Because everything was so cold.

I feel like for a while we were really in these spaces where you kind of, you couldn't just sit, kind of throw your feet up, like barefooted.

Rainey: 00:20:38

And cross legged every which way.

Casey: 00:20:41

Like we're like. Yeah, yeah, I love, love that. Now what are you thinking? What is sort of had its day but stayed a few minutes too long.

Rainey: 00:20:52

So I'm gonna say shiplap has sailed.

Casey: 00:20:55

That shiplap is.

Rainey: 00:20:58

And so all of you people with modern farmhouse houses, please just forgive me. It's good, it's good. It's good in your house. But we're not specifying it anymore.

Now, I do love a good tongue and groove on the back of a mudroom wall so that we can anchor those hooks.

Casey: 00:21:17

Right.

Rainey: 00:21:18

But I'm talking about the shiplap, all the walls, the ceiling. I think that sailed. What about you? What's something you've seen?

Casey: 00:21:26

I think geometrics.

And I'm a very geometric y girl typically, but I think they're either softening or they're just sort of Making their way kind of to that more softer, like you're doing a little bit more curvy. But so this is a question on both of these angles, because we're in this. We've been seeing stuff for years as we're going.

Rainey: 00:21:48

Right.

Casey: 00:21:49

And so, you know, there's wonderful outlets, Pinterest and Houzz and all these things. And that's where a lot of clients see their stuff.

Rainey: 00:21:55

Yeah.

Casey: 00:21:56

And a lot of those Images, though, are 3, 4, or 5 years old. They don't realize because it's on the front of their feed. But we've been seeing it or doing it for all these years already.

So when they come and it's like a new thing.

Rainey: 00:22:10

Yeah.

Casey: 00:22:10

How. How we. How do you sort of break that to them lightly as far as, like, nah, that shiplap sailed.

Rainey: 00:22:21

Yeah.

Casey: 00:22:21

How do you say that? Gently? Or what do you do if somebody comes to you with that?

Rainey: 00:22:26

So if that's, like.

If their inspo images are littered with that, I'd probably talk about that and say, you know, that's something that's not really big in our industry anymore. But again, it's your home, and if that's something you decide you have to have, then it's my job to figure out an updated way to include that look.

And it might be that we just do it on the ceiling and not on all the walls, but sometimes I just don't talk about the inspo photos for a while, and I do the design, and they forget that that was in. They don't know why.

They love the photos sometimes, and that they were littered with shiplap or geometric patterns or another thing that I'm so happy. I'm so happy we're not doing anymore, because there is no other way to design with gray and white than every way that I have seen. I cannot.

You cannot do gray and white in any other way than what's been done. And so when was the last time you did a gray and white house?

Casey: 00:23:26

I. It's been a while. It's been a real long while.

Rainey: 00:23:30

Yeah.

Casey: 00:23:30

Yeah. Haven't even been asked. People will show pictures.

Rainey: 00:23:34

Yeah.

Casey: 00:23:34

And we try and kind of gravitate away. Yeah. And try and figure out whether, I.

Rainey: 00:23:40

Mean, where there's something.

Casey: 00:23:40

Strength, contrast, something soften. Yeah. I can't believe I'm saying. But some of the stuff I'm actually like, can we maybe soften that with a grayish.

If we're really stuck on it and I'm not. Beige is the saddest thing. Color to me as I'm wearing the beige pants, cream pants. It was like, it felt like band aid to me, but.

But now I'm almost like, let's bring that in then. Because it's an earth tone. And I think our earth tones are really all of that. They're doing it beautiful. They're doing it hard.

But it is interesting when that. When the clients have this thing that we know or we're tired of doing. And I hate to say it like that, but it's true. Yeah.

So it's always interesting to hear how other people kind of handle that, because at the end of the day, it is their house.

And so a question I like to ask is, do you love it or is it just because you keep seeing it and you think it's on trend and that's what people are doing?

Rainey: 00:24:29

Yeah.

Casey: 00:24:30

And quite often it is that.

Rainey: 00:24:31

It's.

Casey: 00:24:32

That's. That's what people are doing and that's what they need to do. And it's like, okay, then. No, we're.

Rainey: 00:24:36

We're just different.

Casey: 00:24:38

What do you love?

Because how many times you have people over A couple of times a year at best, except for your best friends, and they don't, you know, they're in your house, they know you, and they know gray and white's not you.

Rainey: 00:24:47

Yeah.

Casey: 00:24:48

Right. So make it you. So. Yeah, I love that.

Rainey: 00:24:52

So our goal is to talk about, like a trend at the end of our time together. So I think something that I see that is just shocking me is that domestic air travel is through the damn roof.

Like, I can go to Europe three times for what it costs me to fly to California. Have you noticed that I sat last.

Casey: 00:25:17

Night with Matt trying to book a couple flights for us to come home from a holiday, and I was like this. I always put everything, every equation to me, money wise, is a round trip ticket to Europe. That's always been it.

Rainey: 00:25:29

That's how you measure everything.

Casey: 00:25:30

That's how I measure everything. It's like, well, that's. Tip it to. That's a trip to Paris. I'm not doing that. I'll do. So that's it.

I'm like, we're coming home from Washington state for the same price it would cost us to fly to Europe.

Rainey: 00:25:41

Yeah.

Casey: 00:25:41

And that is there.

Rainey: 00:25:42

I don't understand.

Casey: 00:25:43

Shocking. So why aren't we all just going to Europe and so to piggyback onto that luggage?

So it's almost like luggage just found out that airline, like, what the hell has happened? Did somebody let open a gate that I didn't know about. But luggage is all I'm seeing anywhere, ever, everywhere.

Rainey: 00:26:00

And. And the gadgets that all of them do. I'm like, who decided to do 27 gadgets and accessories in this one? Carry on. Like, have you.

They will drink your water for you. They. I'm serious. They will charge you.

Casey: 00:26:17

Oh, my God. They will charge your phone.

Rainey: 00:26:19

They will.

Casey: 00:26:20

I mean, they're gonna do your presentation once you get to the place you're going. It's mind boggling.

Rainey: 00:26:24

It is. But the sad thing is, is that all of these ads work on me. I feel like I need all of them. I'm like, well, my suitcase only does 24 things, not 27.

Surely I need that. I mean, do you feel that way too?

Casey: 00:26:38

Absolutely. My present this year from Matt for my birthday was a beautiful Toomey suitcase. Yeah, it's great for other people. I am like, how many trips to.

Rainey: 00:26:50

Europe is that exactly?

Casey: 00:26:50

I'm like, no, I can't. So we. Although I love the bag, the bag it came in, I got inside of it is the biggest bag I've ever seen. And so. But I returned it. And I'm so sad.

And it's nothing against Toomey. I love your product. I couldn't justify for me because I am like, let's go to TJ Maxx. They got Samsonite. That shit will roll for 100 trips.

And I'm proud to say this, this next flight tomorrow I'm taking I'll become 1k after that flight. I've had 73 flights this year, so I travel a lot and I'm always a carry on girl. But I've never needed a precious suitcase.

But now I feel like I need one.

Rainey: 00:27:25

Yeah.

Casey: 00:27:26

So I took the to me back. But I did go to away, which I think is a brand you use.

Rainey: 00:27:29

Yeah. And all of our family has away luggage. Everyone has their own color. And it's this whole thing in our family.

And if you join our family, then you get away luggage too. It's like a welcoming gift.

Casey: 00:27:40

So my sort of part in now with my. I brought my own color. But is that okay? Can I be part of your family? Because I want that.

Rainey: 00:27:47

Absolutely. Absolutely. So today was amazing.

Casey: 00:27:52

Loved it. Can't wait to do it.

Rainey: 00:27:53

Loved every second of it. And so until next time, be thinking, is there something in your life that you would like to reframe?

Casey: 00:28:04

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Rainey: 00:28:15

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Casey: 00:28:20

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Rainey: 00:28:22

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